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Modulate Posted - 08/10/2010 : 2:27:06 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20011106/aponline215233_000.htm

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Jogo Element Posted - 08/25/2010 : 09:58:12 AM

FDA approves clinical trials, Sept 2009

http://www.maps.org/media/view/mdma_news_id854/


Here are the results from a pilot study, released Aug 1st, 2010.

http://www.maps.org/media/view/research_finds_ecstasy_helps_treat_ptsd1/




peripheralVisionary Posted - 08/16/2010 : 11:26:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by plume

I dunno ravers - I've only been blessed w/ a "pure" mdma experience once, maybe twice, and it was really amazing. Problem was that the first time I tried E I got the good stuff from Rochester. Phew, that was amazing and I went around trying to chase that high for years. Pressed pills are f*cking gross compared to the real deal and I can say w/ much certainty that "e" in street form is garbage and I wouldn't touch it w/ a ten foot poll. I won't front though, if I had a lead on the real deal holy field, I might consider it.

Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties. Let's leave it at - "this shit is fun as hell to do". Maybe real mdma isn't quite so bad, but then again, isn't there like studies that even the clean stuff puts holes in your brains. lol.

I'll stick w/ my reefer and beer thanks.



Agreed, that ass whoopin' feeling just stopped being worth it.
plume Posted - 08/13/2010 : 1:26:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by deebuke

quote:
Originally posted by plume

I dunno ravers - I've only been blessed w/ a "pure" mdma experience once, maybe twice, and it was really amazing. Problem was that the first time I tried E I got the good stuff from Rochester. Phew, that was amazing and I went around trying to chase that high for years. Pressed pills are f*cking gross compared to the real deal and I can say w/ much certainty that "e" in street form is garbage and I wouldn't touch it w/ a ten foot poll. I won't front though, if I had a lead on the real deal holy field, I might consider it.

Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties. Let's leave it at - "this shit is fun as hell to do". Maybe real mdma isn't quite so bad, but then again, isn't there like studies that even the clean stuff puts holes in your brains. lol.

I'll stick w/ my reefer and beer thanks.


"Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties." according to that opinion then anti rabies shots, HIV prevention medication and cancer medication has bs medicinal properties. As most variations of these medications make you feel like dog $hit through the entirety of treatment.

You'd be surprised at the amount of things that you encounter on a daily bases that is harmful to your body, and that can cause long term damage. silverware, soda cans, The flame retardant spray on furniture, televisions, computers, cell phones... to just list a few. These have all been linked to long term damage be it cancer, alzheimers, tumors and holes in the brain. Yet we continue to use these products.

MDMA does have the potential to drill holes in your brain, yes. But, that is in prolonged extreme usage. The dosage recommended for psychiatry are so low that it almost completely diminishes the possibility for long term harm. Since the dosage is so low the 'hangover' felt from taking MDMA for medicinal purposes would be no worse than a hangover from say alcohol.

The reason people get wrecked the next day from taking MDMA is because they are taking dirty E pills with junk in them. Having taken both before I can say that the hangover from taking MDMA is no wheres near the hangover felt from taking dirty E pills.

Does any of this make it perfectly ok? No. No drug is perfectly ok. But, allowing people to the opportunity to lower their mental defenses for self improvement is ok... if done with care and respect.



Perhaps. i suppose I'm open to the concept yet based on personal experiences I know that it's not for me. Love the high, hate the next day. Scary cycle. And yes, clean mdma is much different. that much we agree about.
PL@N3MO Posted - 08/13/2010 : 12:04:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by zoot

quote:
Originally posted by zoot

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Cipher

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Jogo Element

...It certainly has medicinal value.





no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence



f*cking science how does it work?



actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.






There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us??????



This has been health minute with Dr. Zoot. Tune it at 5:30 for the weather.
deebuke Posted - 08/13/2010 : 11:36:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by plume

I dunno ravers - I've only been blessed w/ a "pure" mdma experience once, maybe twice, and it was really amazing. Problem was that the first time I tried E I got the good stuff from Rochester. Phew, that was amazing and I went around trying to chase that high for years. Pressed pills are f*cking gross compared to the real deal and I can say w/ much certainty that "e" in street form is garbage and I wouldn't touch it w/ a ten foot poll. I won't front though, if I had a lead on the real deal holy field, I might consider it.

Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties. Let's leave it at - "this shit is fun as hell to do". Maybe real mdma isn't quite so bad, but then again, isn't there like studies that even the clean stuff puts holes in your brains. lol.

I'll stick w/ my reefer and beer thanks.


"Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties." according to that opinion then anti rabies shots, HIV prevention medication and cancer medication has bs medicinal properties. As most variations of these medications make you feel like dog $hit through the entirety of treatment.

You'd be surprised at the amount of things that you encounter on a daily bases that is harmful to your body, and that can cause long term damage. silverware, soda cans, The flame retardant spray on furniture, televisions, computers, cell phones... to just list a few. These have all been linked to long term damage be it cancer, alzheimers, tumors and holes in the brain. Yet we continue to use these products.

MDMA does have the potential to drill holes in your brain, yes. But, that is in prolonged extreme usage. The dosage recommended for psychiatry are so low that it almost completely diminishes the possibility for long term harm. Since the dosage is so low the 'hangover' felt from taking MDMA for medicinal purposes would be no worse than a hangover from say alcohol.

The reason people get wrecked the next day from taking MDMA is because they are taking dirty E pills with junk in them. Having taken both before I can say that the hangover from taking MDMA is no wheres near the hangover felt from taking dirty E pills.

Does any of this make it perfectly ok? No. No drug is perfectly ok. But, allowing people to the opportunity to lower their mental defenses for self improvement is ok... if done with care and respect.
plume Posted - 08/13/2010 : 11:10:17 AM
I dunno ravers - I've only been blessed w/ a "pure" mdma experience once, maybe twice, and it was really amazing. Problem was that the first time I tried E I got the good stuff from Rochester. Phew, that was amazing and I went around trying to chase that high for years. Pressed pills are f*cking gross compared to the real deal and I can say w/ much certainty that "e" in street form is garbage and I wouldn't touch it w/ a ten foot poll. I won't front though, if I had a lead on the real deal holy field, I might consider it.

Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties. Let's leave it at - "this shit is fun as hell to do". Maybe real mdma isn't quite so bad, but then again, isn't there like studies that even the clean stuff puts holes in your brains. lol.

I'll stick w/ my reefer and beer thanks.
deebuke Posted - 08/12/2010 : 9:47:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Vogelizer

quote:
Originally posted by zoot

quote:
Originally posted by zoot

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Cipher

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Jogo Element

...It certainly has medicinal value.





no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence



f*cking science how does it work?



actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.






There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us??????



Hey i dunno about you but I watch FOX news and they tell me to never listen to our government


but wait.. when George W was president Fox news told us to do nothing but TRUST our government.
Thomas J Posted - 08/12/2010 : 9:10:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Vogelizer

quote:
Originally posted by zoot

quote:
Originally posted by zoot

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Cipher

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Jogo Element

...It certainly has medicinal value.





no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence



f*cking science how does it work?



actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.






There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us??????



Hey i dunno about you but I watch FOX news and they tell me to never listen to our government



lol the one thing they never get wrong
anabolic1685 Posted - 08/12/2010 : 7:56:00 PM
all i have to say is i saw shaggz 2 dope this thread is OVER in my eyes
Vogelizer Posted - 08/12/2010 : 7:51:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by zoot

quote:
Originally posted by zoot

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Cipher

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Jogo Element

...It certainly has medicinal value.





no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence



f*cking science how does it work?



actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.






There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us??????



Hey i dunno about you but I watch FOX news and they tell me to never listen to our government
zoot Posted - 08/12/2010 : 7:23:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by zoot

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Cipher

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Jogo Element

...It certainly has medicinal value.





no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence



f*cking science how does it work?



actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.






There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us??????
deebuke Posted - 08/12/2010 : 5:09:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Cipher

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Jogo Element

...It certainly has medicinal value.





no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence



f*cking science how does it work?


Thomas J Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:53:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Vogelizer

I love our government. "Thank you for serving in our country's unwinable cause. Sorry many of your brothers in arms are dead, here..have some ecstacy."



can't afford it? astrazeneca can help
Vogelizer Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:48:20 PM
I love our government. "Thank you for serving in our country's unwinable cause. Sorry many of your brothers in arms are dead, here..have some ecstacy."
Thomas J Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:45:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Cipher

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Jogo Element

...It certainly has medicinal value.





no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence



f*cking science how does it work?



actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.
dr morozoff Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:23:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 9000

quote:
Originally posted by Jogo Element

...It certainly has medicinal value.





no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence



f*cking science how does it work?
Thomas J Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:21:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jogo Element

...It certainly has medicinal value.





no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence
anabolic1685 Posted - 08/11/2010 : 11:26:31 PM
yeah ive been following bluelight for a looooooooooooooooong time man much like this site only now im stable on my internet and i finally decided to start throwing in my 2 cents btw been round since www.the-hive.ws also btw
Jogo Element Posted - 08/11/2010 : 11:23:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by anabolic1685

FDA APPROVES MDMA USE FOR IRAQ WAR VETRENS!!!!! http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=518183



A fellow bluelighter? I've been on that forum for yearssssss
PL@N3MO Posted - 08/11/2010 : 10:51:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by deebuke

quote:
Originally posted by 9000

2001 n00b btw they didn't release shit about it in the end. shit's for teenagers and psychonaut druggies no medical value



It's not your fault.





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