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dvs109
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 Posted - 08/26/2010 : 8:28:11 PM
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The heli usuauly means that their are suspected criminals in the area. They are used to trace and hunt them down.
so tell me what does your screenname represent? and what do you mean "have yet to break me"?
They used a heli in houston @ cyberfest which I also lived in texas too lol and my screen name is a neophyte track. Yet to break me means my will to continue going out. Whats devious mean?
lol...dvs was just some initials I put together. I realized afterwords that it looked like devious, plus theres a DVS in buffalo already.
Anyway the efforts you describe earlier do end up shutting down lots of events. Personally I think that some of the marketing and suspected activities of people involved can end up targeting an event itself. It is what it is, unless we the people can actually make changes (and we can change some things like our actions and how events are marketed) there's not much we can do except be positive and work with it. Also using safe and legal venues helps alot too. |
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Vogelizer
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Posted - 08/26/2010 : 11:20:41 PM
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| I agree that some of the marketing tactics are silly and are lucky to not get shut down with some of the names I have seen for events. |
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Originally posted by deebuke
seriously. people really need to get educated if they're gonna claim to like edm. i remember when i took my first edm test... i BARELY passed. i felt like such a scrub. but, then i studied my ass off.. retook the test.. got an A - AND a motherfuckin gold star.
now i only associate with gold star club members. which reminds me.. imma have to see all your gold star club member cards when you get a chance please. thanks.
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PL@N3MO
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Posted - 08/28/2010 : 11:39:38 AM
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| I wonder if the promoters of this event were aware of the city's requirements/permits or if Springfield basically pulled a fast one. I know they were served a "cease and desist" order for the one venue, but just curious if anyone has any more details on this. |
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neighborhood crime
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Posted - 08/28/2010 : 1:01:31 PM
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Originally posted by PL@N3MO
I wonder if the promoters of this event were aware of the city's requirements/permits or if Springfield basically pulled a fast one. I know they were served a "cease and desist" order for the one venue, but just curious if anyone has any more details on this.
Its a fast one and I think, on a federal level, due to Electric Daisy Carnival LA and/or Love Parade. That's my thought on the whole thing. Sometimes they get on this good samaritan kick where they think that they're "saving lives" when actually, I think, it breeds more hate, contempt and mistrust of the government as a whole. As far as them going to the press and trying to tarnish our events, the end result is counterproductive to their objective of getting people not to go. Publicity, whether its negative or positive, leads to more people attending, and that's why this scene was so huge in the 90's. Everytime they slandered events in the local media in nj, more people would attend. Same goes with connecticut, after pyro they thought the scene would die. If you look at what's happening though, connecticut attendance is on an upswing.  |
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PL@N3MO
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Posted - 08/28/2010 : 1:14:45 PM
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Originally posted by neighborhood crime
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Originally posted by PL@N3MO
I wonder if the promoters of this event were aware of the city's requirements/permits or if Springfield basically pulled a fast one. I know they were served a "cease and desist" order for the one venue, but just curious if anyone has any more details on this.
Its a fast one and I think, on a federal level, due to Electric Daisy Carnival LA and/or Love Parade. That's my thought on the whole thing. Sometimes they get on this good samaritan kick where they think that they're "saving lives" when actually, I think, it breeds more hate, contempt and mistrust of the government as a whole. As far as them going to the press and trying to tarnish our events, the end result is counterproductive to their objective of getting people not to go. Publicity, whether its negative or positive, leads to more people attending, and that's why this scene was so huge in the 90's. Everytime they slandered events in the local media in nj, more people would attend. Same goes with connecticut, after pyro they thought the scene would die. If you look at what's happening though, connecticut attendance is on an upswing.
We don't want to repeat the late 90s though. The reason that it got such a bad name was that the news reported on all the "crazy drugs" that was the focus of raves, and what happened was the birth of the association of drugs with raves, and.. *shudders* kandi ravers. ;-)
Also, I agree that there is a negative persisting image of our scene with the media and society. In order to change this, we need to work from the ground up. We need to start pushing back in the media at the local level with POSITIVE exposure. This isn't going to happen by throwing the standard model of events (although don't get me wrong we certainly need promoters to do so, lest we lose everything)
What we need to do is get involved in the local community, and show that we are a united and positive in our actions as a culture, and disassociate (ironic choice of word) the drug culture from the music culture, at least in the local media's eyes.
On a related note, Neighborhood crime, if you want to help and are in the Utica/Cuse/upstate area... check this out
http://www.upstateunderground.net/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14023 |
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neighborhood crime
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PL@N3MO
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Posted - 09/10/2010 : 8:57:11 PM
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| Heard about that. It seems many outdoor "outlaw" events are getting busted. =/ For f*cks sake, let some people go out in the middle of nowhere and get smashed, and listen to music. They are focusing there resources on the wrong area, imo. |
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neighborhood crime
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Posted - 09/11/2010 : 12:01:42 AM
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Heard about that. It seems many outdoor "outlaw" events are getting busted. =/ For f*cks sake, let some people go out in the middle of nowhere and get smashed, and listen to music. They are focusing there resources on the wrong area, imo.
I was tempted to go to that event too. And that happened in new hampshire, the "live free or die" state? |
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plume
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Vogelizer
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Posted - 09/12/2010 : 7:34:35 PM
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Originally posted by deebuke
seriously. people really need to get educated if they're gonna claim to like edm. i remember when i took my first edm test... i BARELY passed. i felt like such a scrub. but, then i studied my ass off.. retook the test.. got an A - AND a motherfuckin gold star.
now i only associate with gold star club members. which reminds me.. imma have to see all your gold star club member cards when you get a chance please. thanks.
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shut down?
