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Grit_t_gonzo
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 Posted - 01/09/2010 : 12:31:27 AM
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[/quote]its hard to push a culture that does'nt have viable venues to play it at.. and personally im done throwing "Raves" at anything illegal or anything non permitted by the city.. The clubs can properly secure situations and venues and def have much more interest in making sure the night stays striagh as possible..
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if i am not mistaken the rave act really put a damper on things - clubs started turning away parties. i remember being at a party at club h2o and the bouncer was bugging me about sitting down along the side of the wall after dancing for like 3 hours straight and wanting to take a break. i guess they were nervous about drug use.
i also had this sticker stolen off my car bumper twice in a row, so the third copy of the sticker I put on my computer tower:
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Sean Place
caulk_lover
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 10:07:35 AM
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Originally posted by anabolic1685
at the end of the day i remember the scene bein bout UNITY there seems to be a lot more pissin n moanin over dumb shit then everyone comin toghter to make boomin ass partys
collectively i disagree, IF you knew of our scene from 2004-2006 you would not be saying that.. Parties here regularly are doing 300+ and the vibe's are pretty top notch ask anyone who plays the events up here..
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Sean Place
caulk_lover
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 10:12:46 AM
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Originally posted by v0insdj
Dripping sweat, nowhere to move, nowhere to sit, and no re-entry? Are we really that desperate? f*ck...maybe....
Sorry for my rant I respect all involved but not the fort chaos idea. Blow up bubbles or something with it.
theres a reason why they call old schoolers hardcore, cause every show was just like that and people f*cking died at raves. survival of the f*cking fittest! :D HARDCORE! (not the music, dont get all excited gomer) |
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hambone
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 10:56:09 AM
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is this cuz i wouldnt stop talking about bryan gee ?!?! f*ck yea!! dude i would go see bryan gee in a venue next to a police station. o wait. i did that last year with hype and daddy earl. lol although i wont be happy if this place is over crowded and i die because im brockin to hard...
anyway this is the shit. now i just have to find a ride up. anyone got any clues ?? |
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GACProductions
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 12:37:08 PM
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Everyone bitches about the over use Trexx. Then, we buy a building zoned Commecial/Gen Assemebly, Gut it, Add a Bathroom, buy a bar, buy some lights, buy a soundsytem, make a stage, buy extra heaters, buy extra fans, All in a place we can OPEN and CLOSE at ANYTIME we want. People are still upset? I understand that we have had a few problems with Fort Chaos earlier events (Too Hot in the Summer/Cold in Winter, Old sound system kind sucked, Section of city, in and out policy) But 10 years ago, I used to rave in an Arcade on the same side of town that this venue is on, with my pants wet up to my knees with a combination of Sweat and Mud known as RAVER GRAVY, in the same atmosphere and I had to best times of my life. So did Hundreds of other people who came there every week. I know there is Wonderful venues downtown, N. Syracuse, Liverpool and other place. I know because I'm probably the one who found them for other people or used them myself. I do my homework. I know my City.
Look, You are worried about Bryan Gee gettin spooked by the venue, But, any headliner who has played in Fort Chaos, LOVED IT. Had the best time in a long time, Most were even reminded of why they got into this scene to begin with. Waly even said "Hey, This is like Brooklyn Underground in 93, man!" Say what you want, This venue is a venue for party kids, owned by party kids, catering to our culture, not our wallets. This could have been a $20 party at Trexx or Bubble, But, No, This is probably going to be under $15 and closer to $10. As for the name of this party.. FOR THE THIRD TIME.. Is not "No Dubstep." Originally, It was just a Big Joke. I'm not a fan of Dubstep, everyone knows that by now. However, I don't hate it nearly to the extent that I have been on this board, Mario said it best, I'm not too much of a hater on this board. I leave that to the people who are good at it like BFSHM or Nate Cipher. But, I even understand why people like dubstep, I might enjoy it if it wasn't in the main room music or thought of as main room music or dance music at all, But then again, I've NEVER liked slower OR softer music. Shit, I even got annoyed at Michael Jackson when he released Human Nature as a Single and He's the f*ckING MAN. So, Common people, This IS the last year I'm doing events.. Today, Jan 9th is my 30th Birsthday, This is sure to be one if not THE FINAL single room event. So, With that being said, This is a High Energy Exploration into Drum and Bass with a speed limit of 160 BPMS. No Dubstep. Just Like the stuff I get down to, So common Syracuse, You can make excuses about the venue not putting baby power on your ass after they wipe it, or getting a little dirt on your shoes, But why not just put on your dancing shoes and sense of adventure and join us as we Welcome a Drum and Bass Legend. |
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Parkay
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 1:55:47 PM
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Originally posted by GACProductions
Everyone bitches about the over use Trexx. Then, we buy a building zoned Commecial/Gen Assemebly, Gut it, Add a Bathroom, buy a bar, buy some lights, buy a soundsytem, make a stage, buy extra heaters, buy extra fans, All in a place we can OPEN and CLOSE at ANYTIME we want. People are still upset? I understand that we have had a few problems with Fort Chaos earlier events (Too Hot in the Summer/Cold in Winter, Old sound system kind sucked, Section of city, in and out policy) But 10 years ago, I used to rave in an Arcade on the same side of town that this venue is on, with my pants wet up to my knees with a combination of Sweat and Mud known as RAVER GRAVY, in the same atmosphere and I had to best times of my life. So did Hundreds of other people who came there every week. I know there is Wonderful venues downtown, N. Syracuse, Liverpool and other place. I know because I'm probably the one who found them for other people or used them myself. I do my homework. I know my City.
Look, You are worried about Bryan Gee gettin spooked by the venue, But, any headliner who has played in Fort Chaos, LOVED IT. Had the best time in a long time, Most were even reminded of why they got into this scene to begin with. Waly even said "Hey, This is like Brooklyn Underground in 93, man!" Say what you want, This venue is a venue for party kids, owned by party kids, catering to our culture, not our wallets. This could have been a $20 party at Trexx or Bubble, But, No, This is probably going to be under $15 and closer to $10. As for the name of this party.. FOR THE THIRD TIME.. Is not "No Dubstep." Originally, It was just a Big Joke. I'm not a fan of Dubstep, everyone knows that by now. However, I don't hate it nearly to the extent that I have been on this board, Mario said it best, I'm not too much of a hater on this board. I leave that to the people who are good at it. But, I even understand why people like dubstep, I might enjoy it if it wasn't in the main room music or thought of as main room music or dance music at all, But then again, I've NEVER liked slower OR softer music. Shit, I even got annoyed at Michael Jackson when he released Human Nature as a Single and He's the f*ckING MAN. So, Common people, This IS the last year I'm doing events.. Today, Jan 9th is my 30th Birsthday, This is sure to be one if not THE FINAL single room event. So, With that being said, This is a High Energy Exploration into Drum and Bass with a speed limit of 160 BPMS. Just Like the stuff I get down to, So common Syracuse, You can make excuses about the venue not putting baby power on your ass after they wipe it, or getting a little dirt on your shoes, But why not just put on your dancing shoes and sense of adventure and join us as we Welcome a Drum and Bass Legend.
Problem is its not 10 years ago, and people wanna be more safe than someones garage.. My entire list of people I talk to dont really feel comfortable here like at all myself included.. While applauding your hard work into making this a viable venue its really shady there man.. Granted the rave scene started in a basement but its not in a basement anymore.. Button's was home because of the people only, the venue was the shadiest grossest place on the planet and should have been closed YEARS before it was allowed to remain open..Because of the instability there we lost our scene for 2+ years because of a HUGE raid.. This place is just asking for trouble in my opinion..
i absoutely love bryan gee in syracuse.. bryan gee at fort chaos.. Not so much
But I wish you all the best with this, after holding a number of after parties there and attending other events.. its not the greatest place to be seen @ in my eyes every week.. This is Syracuse, Ny not NYC or LA.. The Policia def aren't feeling this im pretty sure of that
Mainly button's was also not ina residential area.. This is def residential.. which makes it even more insane..
Any IE.. Everyone Doesn't bitch about trexx.. a few people do and those are usually the people that aren't in the scene to hear good music.. All they wanna do is Get in for free or get f*cked up.. Becase trexx and bubbles both can provide all of us with a safe/LEGAL place to enjoy our nights and remain out of the hair's of all those opposed to our music.. |
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GACProductions
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 3:29:07 PM
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Originally posted by Parkay
Problem is its not 10 years ago, and people wanna be more safe than someones garage.. My entire list of people I talk to dont really feel comfortable here like at all myself included.. While applauding your hard work into making this a viable venue its really shady there man.. Granted the rave scene started in a basement but its not in a basement anymore.. Button's was home because of the people only, the venue was the shadiest grossest place on the planet and should have been closed YEARS before it was allowed to remain open..Because of the instability there we lost our scene for 2+ years because of a HUGE raid.. This place is just asking for trouble in my opinion..
What about this place is Shady? I understand people gripe about wearing bandanas to the party.. My bad. But even then, anything go wrong? No. There's never been a problem here. Residental neighborhood? Button's had a house diagonally across from it. As does this. It is on the edge of a neighborhood, and for larger events we have increased security. I mean, honestly, Is this the first time anyone has EVER seen black people in a neightborhood? I'm not being racist, But it seems like everyone is dancing around saying that, and it seems like that's the problem. For music that was orginated and was played in The Ghettos of Chicago by black people, The Ghettos of Detroit by black people and The Ghettos of London once again, by black people.. how quickly suburbanites took it, put it in posh clubs, slapped some gel in thier hair and got snarky. I love how people get upset at Trexx too, NEWSFLASH. If gays didn't pick up this music in the mid eighties, It would still be playing in small venues and basements in the Ghettos. So, How about some thanks instead of "Eww.. A Gay club or Eww.. The Ghetto"?
So, Here.. Lemme ask you guys.. We'll take a vote.
$10 Fort Chaos?
$20 Bubble or Trexx?
You guys pick.
I have the resources to do eathier at this point. Take a vote.
But if I get dicked with a low crowd. I'm going to f*cking flip. I'm tired of people complaining about what the have in front of them. Especially from someone who puts honest effort in this. |
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Parkay
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 3:38:21 PM
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Originally posted by GACProductions
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Originally posted by Parkay
Problem is its not 10 years ago, and people wanna be more safe than someones garage.. My entire list of people I talk to dont really feel comfortable here like at all myself included.. While applauding your hard work into making this a viable venue its really shady there man.. Granted the rave scene started in a basement but its not in a basement anymore.. Button's was home because of the people only, the venue was the shadiest grossest place on the planet and should have been closed YEARS before it was allowed to remain open..Because of the instability there we lost our scene for 2+ years because of a HUGE raid.. This place is just asking for trouble in my opinion..
What about this place is Shady? I understand people gripe about wearing bandanas to the party.. My bad. But even then, anything go wrong? No. There's never been a problem here. Residental neighborhood? Button's had a house diagonally across from it. As does this. It is on the edge of a neighborhood, and for larger events we have increased security. I mean, honestly, Is this the first time anyone has EVER seen black people in a neightborhood? I'm not being racist, But it seems like everyone is dancing around saying that, and it seems like that's the problem. For music that was orginated and was played in The Ghettos of Chicago by black people, The Ghettos of Detroit by black people and The Ghettos of London once again, by black people.. how quickly suburbanites took it, put it in posh clubs, slapped some gel in thier hair and got snarky. I love how people get upset at Trexx too, NEWSFLASH. If gays didn't pick up this music in the mid eighties, It would still be playing in small venues and basements in the Ghettos. So, How about some thanks instead of "Eww.. A Gay club or Eww.. The Ghetto"?
So, Here.. Lemme ask you guys.. We'll take a vote.
$10 Fort Chaos?
$20 Bubble or Trexx?
You guys pick.
I have the resources to do eathier at this point. Take a vote.
But if I get dicked with a low crowd. I'm going to f*cking flip. I'm tired of people complaining about what the have in front of them. Especially from someone who puts honest effort in this.
I vote 12$ over and 15$ under at club bubbles.. there is no reason to charge 20$ for bryan gee hes not that huge bro.. We brought diselboy for 10$.. Shy fx and josh for 15-20$. World of Dnb you only charged 20$. Bryan Gee is big but hes not like Andy C or something
Bubbles - 15$..
Bubbles will prolly give you the venue for close to nothing... and you have drink specials 2 for 1 all night.. better than fort chaos... And bottom line is.. bubbles already has a small following., and Hell im even asking you to do this at the risk of Losing people at my own party at trexx the night before.. So I mean, take it for what you will as a friend id much rather see this at bubbles than fort choas.. Cause I know a great many people that wont step foot into that place.. |
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Parkay
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 3:46:44 PM
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Originally posted by GACProductions
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Originally posted by Parkay
Problem is its not 10 years ago, and people wanna be more safe than someones garage.. My entire list of people I talk to dont really feel comfortable here like at all myself included.. While applauding your hard work into making this a viable venue its really shady there man.. Granted the rave scene started in a basement but its not in a basement anymore.. Button's was home because of the people only, the venue was the shadiest grossest place on the planet and should have been closed YEARS before it was allowed to remain open..Because of the instability there we lost our scene for 2+ years because of a HUGE raid.. This place is just asking for trouble in my opinion..
What about this place is Shady? I understand people gripe about wearing bandanas to the party.. My bad. But even then, anything go wrong? No. There's never been a problem here. Residental neighborhood? Button's had a house diagonally across from it. As does this. It is on the edge of a neighborhood, and for larger events we have increased security. I mean, honestly, Is this the first time anyone has EVER seen black people in a neightborhood? I'm not being racist, But it seems like everyone is dancing around saying that, and it seems like that's the problem. For music that was orginated and was played in The Ghettos of Chicago by black people, The Ghettos of Detroit by black people and The Ghettos of London once again, by black people.. how quickly suburbanites took it, put it in posh clubs, slapped some gel in thier hair and got snarky. I love how people get upset at Trexx too, NEWSFLASH. If gays didn't pick up this music in the mid eighties, It would still be playing in small venues and basements in the Ghettos. So, How about some thanks instead of "Eww.. A Gay club or Eww.. The Ghetto"?
So, Here.. Lemme ask you guys.. We'll take a vote.
$10 Fort Chaos?
$20 Bubble or Trexx?
You guys pick.
I have the resources to do eathier at this point. Take a vote.
But if I get dicked with a low crowd. I'm going to f*cking flip. I'm tired of people complaining about what the have in front of them. Especially from someone who puts honest effort in this.
Black people are fine man.. Black peopel offering me crack when I walk in all the way to the door = not so fine |
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GACProductions
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 4:19:42 PM
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Originally posted by Parkay
I vote 12$ over and 15$ under at club bubbles.. there is no reason to charge 20$ for bryan gee hes not that huge bro.. We brought diselboy for 10$.. Shy fx and josh for 15-20$. World of Dnb you only charged 20$. Bryan Gee is big but hes not like Andy C or something.
Then you do it.. $20. Simple as that. Plus I never do seperate pricing. Never have. Never Will. Even Quikk Fixx that was at Traffik (Same owners and venue as Bubbles) I didn't have seperate prices over/under. $20. Simple as that, that is the difference in the cost of the event. The event cost DOUBLES when moving it to bubbles. I lost close $3000 at WODNB. You lost over $1000 for Shy FX and Josh. Andy C in this area would cost close to $25. In toronto he cost $35. So... |
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hambone
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 4:34:15 PM
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| bryan gee is huge mikey! often billed above andy c , saying hes not huge is just wrong. syracuse is stupid when it comes to coming out for big dnb, WoDnB for example. i was face to face with skibadee with prolly like 30 other people. no one even gave a shit. i just got back from miami and it still blew my f*cking mind. but yes bryan gee is a monster/legend/ultimate headliner/badman mofo of dnb. hes prolly inTO the night before headlining the sound academy that will bring is 1500+. f*ck it hes HUGE |
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Future Rinse-outs!!!
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Parkay
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 4:38:56 PM
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bryan gee is huge mikey! often billed above andy c , saying hes not huge is just wrong. syracuse is stupid when it comes to coming out for big dnb, WoDnB for example. i was face to face with skibadee with prolly like 30 other people. no one even gave a shit. i just got back from miami and it still blew my f*cking mind. but yes bryan gee is a monster/legend/ultimate headliner/badman mofo of dnb. hes prolly inTO the night before headlining the sound academy that will bring is 1500+. f*ck it hes HUGE
As Stated above bro.. I understand how big he is.. howver putting him in fort choas is a god damn crime.. Todd often likes to put things into 1992 perspectives.. and much like the many times ive worked with him.. putting legendary artists up at motel 6 and in fort choas.. is NOT something that makes them come back to syracuse ever.. Which if everyone cared about happening again in the future should really consider...
Also Todd.. I told you about the aphrodite in march deal.. you could have used your credit towards that with me and done the artists youve ALWAYS said you were gonna get for the past 8 years.. and we both could promoted it.. but you didnt hear me..lol
But after all that Id still see bryan gee for 20$ at bubbles over fort choas No questions |
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hambone
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 4:48:13 PM
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| werd mikey. werd. |
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10/29 - Hype!rdrive - Trexx, Syracuse
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v0insdj
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 6:01:06 PM
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| I was in Bubbles last night and I vote Bubbles. I'll pay 20 bux to see him at bubbles. That's something to get excited about! Not so much seeing him at fort chaos. |
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Security is NOT safe when they run over my homeboys $300 Eddie Bauer Tent while hes sleeping inside of it...WTF?!!!
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CrazyRaver
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 6:07:34 PM
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| I hear Bubbles is BIG. Therfore I vote Bubbles and f*ck the hood. just my 2 cents |
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Wari0
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 6:09:57 PM
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yeah i dont understand why you are doing this party if you backed out on Quick Fixx, when you could of possibly had aphrodite!!! WHAT!! Come on now
Also i agree, having such a HUUUUUGE Headliner at Fort Kaos is definitely pushing it bro, i actually like that venue cuz i still love my underground feel but, this guy is no f*ckin Wally aka Pish Posh dude. No offense but Pish Posh isnt a headliner...
Also any party ive been to at Fort Kaos had the WORST SOUNDSYSTEM ever and thats what really pushed people away. I dont care where the venue is but, YOU NEVER SHIT ON THE SOUNDSYSTEM!!! That is the number one rule!! If you dont want BASS, you can still have really loud high quality mids and highs that wont wake up thy neighbors...
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self.induced.daydream
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 6:22:28 PM
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Let me get this straight.
Hambone says that Gee is f*cking huge. 1500 the night before in TO = pretty impressive. Buuuuut, we're gonna shove him in someones garage? Where theres no parking, no seating, no liquor, no in & outs and a high chance of police interaction.
Word up. And you want me to pay for this?
And you expect that Gee isn't gonna be offended by this? I mean, I understand that getting paid is getting paid... but theres still a standard that most of these artists have to have met. If he's been above Andy C on bills before- what makes you think he's actually going to enjoy that dungeon?
Another thing- how would moving it to bubbles make your cost that much higher? You're bringing in Gee, and paying the SOH kids too... Todd, your show getting shut down just based on (potential) underage drinking is gonna run you another $2000... I'd take the path of least resistance and put out a couple hundo for the club and let them handle it. You can't say in one response that you've got all the resources to do whatever you need to, and then renig that same statement the next time around...
You realize that acting as a dramallama on this board to create intererest in your party is not an actual promotional tactic? There's less than 100 people that keep up with this teaparty forum... and they're all kids taht would come anyways. Spend more time pushing to new people... preferably not crack dealers... we've got enough pandemics to deal with.
That "venue"- isn't a venue. Plain and simple. It's a garage that has a zoned fire code. No one involved owns the place... (unless I'm SERIOUSLY mistaken) renting doesn't give you sh*t for rights to using it as a "place of business" - especially an underground late night dance den in the middle of a residential neighborhood. The northside already has an alarmingly increased rate of police monitoring...
Yeeeears ago, before I was even around- the scene you once knew was completely rocked by that raid. It's already known that they're not happy with us. It's common knowledge that there are new police chiefs and they're out for rainbowraverkandi-blood. Didn't you catch the "NO RAVE DETAILS" extravaganza? C'mon now. You gotta take some more things into consideration, this can get legal really quick. It's never going to be like it used to be. Ever again. You gotta roll with the punches, ride the tide and change with the times.
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self.induced.daydream
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 6:25:10 PM
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| ps. I'd pay $20 for bubbles. To have places to sit, toilet paper to use, liquor to drink, to smoke my cigs and be able to come and go as I so please. |
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Wari0
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 6:38:56 PM
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| i wont pay $20 for one headliner sorry... These days no party should be $20 for one headliner and all locals |
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djmatrixx
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 7:54:29 PM
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| Great Dj bad idea. LIke Parkay said its not 1992 and nobody really wants to deal with cops. You have a huge party in a residential hood your gonna get jacked. Im a 30yr old professional one f*ck up like that could cost me my liscense and my job. |
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