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Jogo Element
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anabolic1685
UUnet Addict
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 Posted - 08/11/2010 : 11:26:31 PM
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| yeah ive been following bluelight for a looooooooooooooooong time man much like this site only now im stable on my internet and i finally decided to start throwing in my 2 cents btw been round since www.the-hive.ws also btw |
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Thomas J
UUnet Guru
3893 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:21:53 PM
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Originally posted by Jogo Element
...It certainly has medicinal value.
no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence |
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dr morozoff
upstate_maverick
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:23:16 PM
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Jogo Element
...It certainly has medicinal value.
no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence
f*cking science how does it work? |
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Thomas J
UUnet Guru
3893 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:45:45 PM
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Originally posted by Nathan Cipher
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Jogo Element
...It certainly has medicinal value.
no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence
f*cking science how does it work?
actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value. |
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Vogelizer
UUnet Guru
7280 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:48:20 PM
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| I love our government. "Thank you for serving in our country's unwinable cause. Sorry many of your brothers in arms are dead, here..have some ecstacy." |
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quote:
Originally posted by deebuke
seriously. people really need to get educated if they're gonna claim to like edm. i remember when i took my first edm test... i BARELY passed. i felt like such a scrub. but, then i studied my ass off.. retook the test.. got an A - AND a motherfuckin gold star.
now i only associate with gold star club members. which reminds me.. imma have to see all your gold star club member cards when you get a chance please. thanks.
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Thomas J
UUnet Guru
3893 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2010 : 4:53:26 PM
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Originally posted by Vogelizer
I love our government. "Thank you for serving in our country's unwinable cause. Sorry many of your brothers in arms are dead, here..have some ecstacy."
can't afford it? astrazeneca can help |
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deebuke
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 5:09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Nathan Cipher
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Jogo Element
...It certainly has medicinal value.
no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence
f*cking science how does it work?
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zoot
UUnet Buddha
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 7:23:54 PM
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Originally posted by zoot
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Nathan Cipher
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Jogo Element
...It certainly has medicinal value.
no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence
f*cking science how does it work?
actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.
There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us?????? |
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Vogelizer
UUnet Guru
7280 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2010 : 7:51:40 PM
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Originally posted by zoot
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Originally posted by zoot
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Nathan Cipher
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Jogo Element
...It certainly has medicinal value.
no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence
f*cking science how does it work?
actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.
There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us??????
Hey i dunno about you but I watch FOX news and they tell me to never listen to our government  |
Click the link below to stream and download my new mix
"The Punisher" by vogelizmskizm
http://soundcloud.com/defektivsoundsystem05
quote:
Originally posted by deebuke
seriously. people really need to get educated if they're gonna claim to like edm. i remember when i took my first edm test... i BARELY passed. i felt like such a scrub. but, then i studied my ass off.. retook the test.. got an A - AND a motherfuckin gold star.
now i only associate with gold star club members. which reminds me.. imma have to see all your gold star club member cards when you get a chance please. thanks.
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anabolic1685
UUnet Addict
154 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2010 : 7:56:00 PM
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Thomas J
UUnet Guru
3893 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2010 : 9:10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Vogelizer
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Originally posted by zoot
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Originally posted by zoot
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Nathan Cipher
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Jogo Element
...It certainly has medicinal value.
no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence
f*cking science how does it work?
actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.
There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us??????
Hey i dunno about you but I watch FOX news and they tell me to never listen to our government
lol the one thing they never get wrong |
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deebuke
UUnet Guru
1861 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2010 : 9:47:50 PM
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Originally posted by Vogelizer
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Originally posted by zoot
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Originally posted by zoot
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Nathan Cipher
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Jogo Element
...It certainly has medicinal value.
no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence
f*cking science how does it work?
actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.
There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us??????
Hey i dunno about you but I watch FOX news and they tell me to never listen to our government
but wait.. when George W was president Fox news told us to do nothing but TRUST our government. |
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plume
network_junglist
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Posted - 08/13/2010 : 11:10:17 AM
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I dunno ravers - I've only been blessed w/ a "pure" mdma experience once, maybe twice, and it was really amazing. Problem was that the first time I tried E I got the good stuff from Rochester. Phew, that was amazing and I went around trying to chase that high for years. Pressed pills are f*cking gross compared to the real deal and I can say w/ much certainty that "e" in street form is garbage and I wouldn't touch it w/ a ten foot poll. I won't front though, if I had a lead on the real deal holy field, I might consider it.
Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties. Let's leave it at - "this shit is fun as hell to do". Maybe real mdma isn't quite so bad, but then again, isn't there like studies that even the clean stuff puts holes in your brains. lol.
I'll stick w/ my reefer and beer thanks. |
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deebuke
UUnet Guru
1861 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2010 : 11:36:37 AM
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Originally posted by plume
I dunno ravers - I've only been blessed w/ a "pure" mdma experience once, maybe twice, and it was really amazing. Problem was that the first time I tried E I got the good stuff from Rochester. Phew, that was amazing and I went around trying to chase that high for years. Pressed pills are f*cking gross compared to the real deal and I can say w/ much certainty that "e" in street form is garbage and I wouldn't touch it w/ a ten foot poll. I won't front though, if I had a lead on the real deal holy field, I might consider it.
Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties. Let's leave it at - "this shit is fun as hell to do". Maybe real mdma isn't quite so bad, but then again, isn't there like studies that even the clean stuff puts holes in your brains. lol.
I'll stick w/ my reefer and beer thanks.
"Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties." according to that opinion then anti rabies shots, HIV prevention medication and cancer medication has bs medicinal properties. As most variations of these medications make you feel like dog $hit through the entirety of treatment.
You'd be surprised at the amount of things that you encounter on a daily bases that is harmful to your body, and that can cause long term damage. silverware, soda cans, The flame retardant spray on furniture, televisions, computers, cell phones... to just list a few. These have all been linked to long term damage be it cancer, alzheimers, tumors and holes in the brain. Yet we continue to use these products.
MDMA does have the potential to drill holes in your brain, yes. But, that is in prolonged extreme usage. The dosage recommended for psychiatry are so low that it almost completely diminishes the possibility for long term harm. Since the dosage is so low the 'hangover' felt from taking MDMA for medicinal purposes would be no worse than a hangover from say alcohol.
The reason people get wrecked the next day from taking MDMA is because they are taking dirty E pills with junk in them. Having taken both before I can say that the hangover from taking MDMA is no wheres near the hangover felt from taking dirty E pills.
Does any of this make it perfectly ok? No. No drug is perfectly ok. But, allowing people to the opportunity to lower their mental defenses for self improvement is ok... if done with care and respect. |
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PL@N3MO
direkt_influence
12577 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2010 : 12:04:37 PM
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Originally posted by zoot
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Originally posted by zoot
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Nathan Cipher
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Originally posted by 9000
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Originally posted by Jogo Element
...It certainly has medicinal value.
no. no it doesn't. but ima give you a chance to post a shred of evidence
f*cking science how does it work?
actually, i should have said there is little tangible evidence that mdma has any medicinal value.
There is little tangible evidence that any anti depressants work, they are being prescribed at alarming rates and are far more harmful. I don' know about you but when a prescription says consult you physician if you have thoughts of suicide it must be ok right???? After all uncle sam approved it would he lie to us??????
This has been health minute with Dr. Zoot. Tune it at 5:30 for the weather. |
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plume
network_junglist
5695 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2010 : 1:26:28 PM
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Originally posted by deebuke
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Originally posted by plume
I dunno ravers - I've only been blessed w/ a "pure" mdma experience once, maybe twice, and it was really amazing. Problem was that the first time I tried E I got the good stuff from Rochester. Phew, that was amazing and I went around trying to chase that high for years. Pressed pills are f*cking gross compared to the real deal and I can say w/ much certainty that "e" in street form is garbage and I wouldn't touch it w/ a ten foot poll. I won't front though, if I had a lead on the real deal holy field, I might consider it.
Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties. Let's leave it at - "this shit is fun as hell to do". Maybe real mdma isn't quite so bad, but then again, isn't there like studies that even the clean stuff puts holes in your brains. lol.
I'll stick w/ my reefer and beer thanks.
"Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties." according to that opinion then anti rabies shots, HIV prevention medication and cancer medication has bs medicinal properties. As most variations of these medications make you feel like dog $hit through the entirety of treatment.
You'd be surprised at the amount of things that you encounter on a daily bases that is harmful to your body, and that can cause long term damage. silverware, soda cans, The flame retardant spray on furniture, televisions, computers, cell phones... to just list a few. These have all been linked to long term damage be it cancer, alzheimers, tumors and holes in the brain. Yet we continue to use these products.
MDMA does have the potential to drill holes in your brain, yes. But, that is in prolonged extreme usage. The dosage recommended for psychiatry are so low that it almost completely diminishes the possibility for long term harm. Since the dosage is so low the 'hangover' felt from taking MDMA for medicinal purposes would be no worse than a hangover from say alcohol.
The reason people get wrecked the next day from taking MDMA is because they are taking dirty E pills with junk in them. Having taken both before I can say that the hangover from taking MDMA is no wheres near the hangover felt from taking dirty E pills.
Does any of this make it perfectly ok? No. No drug is perfectly ok. But, allowing people to the opportunity to lower their mental defenses for self improvement is ok... if done with care and respect.
Perhaps. i suppose I'm open to the concept yet based on personal experiences I know that it's not for me. Love the high, hate the next day. Scary cycle. And yes, clean mdma is much different. that much we agree about. |
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peripheralVisionary
UUnet Guru
573 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2010 : 11:26:33 PM
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Originally posted by plume
I dunno ravers - I've only been blessed w/ a "pure" mdma experience once, maybe twice, and it was really amazing. Problem was that the first time I tried E I got the good stuff from Rochester. Phew, that was amazing and I went around trying to chase that high for years. Pressed pills are f*cking gross compared to the real deal and I can say w/ much certainty that "e" in street form is garbage and I wouldn't touch it w/ a ten foot poll. I won't front though, if I had a lead on the real deal holy field, I might consider it.
Based on what it makes you feel like the next day though, I call bs on the medicinal properties. Let's leave it at - "this shit is fun as hell to do". Maybe real mdma isn't quite so bad, but then again, isn't there like studies that even the clean stuff puts holes in your brains. lol.
I'll stick w/ my reefer and beer thanks.
Agreed, that ass whoopin' feeling just stopped being worth it. |
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Jogo Element
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First steps towards MDMA in therapy
