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Vogelizer
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Posted - 08/23/2010 : 8:34:06 PM
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quote: Originally posted by djmatrixx
Im throwing a party and calling it Super Dooper Death Metal Jam.......
this idea has win written all over it |
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quote: Originally posted by deebuke
seriously. people really need to get educated if they're gonna claim to like edm. i remember when i took my first edm test... i BARELY passed. i felt like such a scrub. but, then i studied my ass off.. retook the test.. got an A - AND a motherfuckin gold star.
now i only associate with gold star club members. which reminds me.. imma have to see all your gold star club member cards when you get a chance please. thanks.
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Thomas J
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Posted - 08/23/2010 : 8:56:56 PM
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neighborhood crime
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drunkandbass
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Posted - 08/24/2010 : 12:19:45 AM
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what you all about?
MAC, I'm not a f*cking DJ, Allister
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djjune-r
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Posted - 08/24/2010 : 11:34:56 AM
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quote: Originally posted by neighborhood crime
quote: Originally posted by Parkay
With joe biden in office.. Im surprised they dont take down every party that had the word Electronic in it
What's with joe biden? Besides the fact he comes from the sucktacular state of delaware?
It blows that I could not blame one party over the other for their contribution to the Patriot Act..both sides have had to work together to pass it. Joe Biden is only one man, but I had no clue he authored part of it. |
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DJinn
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Posted - 08/24/2010 : 7:46:32 PM
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quote: Originally posted by djjune-r
quote: Originally posted by neighborhood crime
quote: Originally posted by Parkay
With joe biden in office.. Im surprised they dont take down every party that had the word Electronic in it
What's with joe biden? Besides the fact he comes from the sucktacular state of delaware?
It blows that I could not blame one party over the other for their contribution to the Patriot Act..both sides have had to work together to pass it. Joe Biden is only one man, but I had no clue he authored part of it.
Rave act not Patriot Act. |
Originally posted by neighborhood crime[/i]
house music is for democrats and homosexuals. |
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dvs109
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Posted - 08/24/2010 : 8:08:16 PM
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^^^correct, and it was instated through the amber alert bill. fortunately it has not been used that much, however, parties can (obviously) still be shut down for various reasons. |
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neighborhood crime
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Posted - 08/25/2010 : 12:17:27 AM
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quote: Originally posted by drunkandbass
hes one of the rave act pioneers of douche-baggery
And he would totally know raves since there was so many of them in his state? Seriously, I've never seen a flyer for a party in delaware and I've been to baltimore and philly a shitload of times. |
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lordbutter
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Posted - 08/25/2010 : 08:14:12 AM
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Or just how about doing alittle research b4 a party location is selected.
And if there is a shooting, stabbing or some other sort of constant bad publicity for a place maybe look into a venue change.
The "rave act" is nothing but a bill passed to shut some worried parents up. Does anyone actually know of a party that has been shut down because of this? I have yet to see a cop come busting in screaming "rave act, shut this place down."
More often its just people being stupid with drugs, fights, or various sketch ball stuff that gets parties stopped, much like this one.
"hmm lets see, well this place has been in trouble numerous times..owner seems to be a sketchball, and look now there is a stabbing." "Ya I see no reason to stop the party...."
"OMGZ the cops R here.....WTF!"
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neighborhood crime
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Posted - 08/25/2010 : 1:57:21 PM
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quote: Originally posted by lordbutter
Or just how about doing alittle research b4 a party location is selected.
And if there is a shooting, stabbing or some other sort of constant bad publicity for a place maybe look into a venue change.
The "rave act" is nothing but a bill passed to shut some worried parents up. Does anyone actually know of a party that has been shut down because of this? I have yet to see a cop come busting in screaming "rave act, shut this place down."
More often its just people being stupid with drugs, fights, or various sketch ball stuff that gets parties stopped, much like this one.
"hmm lets see, well this place has been in trouble numerous times..owner seems to be a sketchball, and look now there is a stabbing." "Ya I see no reason to stop the party...."
"OMGZ the cops R here.....WTF!"
What about the shit out in utah where they actually sent military in 2 or 3 years ago? Wasn't that on the premise of the rave act? |
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neighborhood crime
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drunkandbass
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Posted - 08/25/2010 : 5:41:38 PM
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I more than understand having issues with a venue. Our summer weekly did not go off this summer due to fire codes and permits. Its stupid, but if you do not make sure the event you are throwing is completely within "the law", you run the ri...sk of being shut down. We, rather than risking it, choose not have the event at said venue (actually we moved it to fall). If a venue has been an issue before, in an area where the police clearly have an issue with raves, maybe new avenues should have been investigated? this is just an opinion of an outsider, not trying to bash anyone at all here....there was an article in the local paper on the internet aug 3 or 5 that quoted the mayor (i believe) saying good luck, but this event was going to be shut down. If i had been involved in planning I would have went right downtown and found out what needed to be done to do things right.....if that failed, i would have moved the event immediately, and not released the exact location til a week or two before ( i have been apart of much larger events moving weeks before to new venues due to a towns threats, its not easy, but to protect an event sometimes it must be done)
I have not been there, but I have heard how much the powers that be do not like parties in that area. This is not the first one to be shut down right? And if the chosen venue is having issues with the police, its better to iron it all out or choose a new venue. A venue that works for 50-100 people may not be suitable for 800. Larger events attract attention. Especially with recent events nation wide. I'm not saying this totally could have been avoided, shit happens, but maybe if the police had been allowed to walk through and plan with the event coordinators and the fire marshal weeks before, and involving the "power that be", a little more could have helped the event....then again, it may have made no difference what so ever....all i do know is i have very good friends who are promoters in upstate ny who have been throwing very large parties for about ten years now, and they always make sure to have insurance, a solid venue with no holes in it, then even hire one or two off dutys to stand outside. this involves the "powers", and luckily there has never been an issue with the event itself.
I would def go after that hotel for being crooks. They just cost those involved a lot of money. It's sad to have watched this happen to an event with so much potential. If they have contracts, I say get em.
It was a "sting" in a way. The event was widely promoted (in an area that seems to hate raves), there were newspaper articles, etc etc etc. The cops knew if was coming. It was not a surprise. If the venue had been up to fire codes, and the hotel owners made sure that everything was cool on their end, and the promoters had all their permits in order and insurance, they would not have legally been able to do what they did, and if they did it anyway, you could sue. It sucks....and its a hassle....but playing their game can sometimes protect the continuity of our game....
I agree totally, leave the venue alone....no offense to CT, but I've been wary of events there since Pyro last year. I had never been anywhere where something like that happened. I hope that future events work out better for everyone involved. |
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neighborhood crime
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Posted - 08/26/2010 : 02:05:32 AM
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quote: Originally posted by drunkandbass
I more than understand having issues with a venue. Our summer weekly did not go off this summer due to fire codes and permits. Its stupid, but if you do not make sure the event you are throwing is completely within "the law", you run the ri...sk of being shut down. We, rather than risking it, choose not have the event at said venue (actually we moved it to fall). If a venue has been an issue before, in an area where the police clearly have an issue with raves, maybe new avenues should have been investigated? this is just an opinion of an outsider, not trying to bash anyone at all here....there was an article in the local paper on the internet aug 3 or 5 that quoted the mayor (i believe) saying good luck, but this event was going to be shut down. If i had been involved in planning I would have went right downtown and found out what needed to be done to do things right.....if that failed, i would have moved the event immediately, and not released the exact location til a week or two before ( i have been apart of much larger events moving weeks before to new venues due to a towns threats, its not easy, but to protect an event sometimes it must be done)
I have not been there, but I have heard how much the powers that be do not like parties in that area. This is not the first one to be shut down right? And if the chosen venue is having issues with the police, its better to iron it all out or choose a new venue. A venue that works for 50-100 people may not be suitable for 800. Larger events attract attention. Especially with recent events nation wide. I'm not saying this totally could have been avoided, shit happens, but maybe if the police had been allowed to walk through and plan with the event coordinators and the fire marshal weeks before, and involving the "power that be", a little more could have helped the event....then again, it may have made no difference what so ever....all i do know is i have very good friends who are promoters in upstate ny who have been throwing very large parties for about ten years now, and they always make sure to have insurance, a solid venue with no holes in it, then even hire one or two off dutys to stand outside. this involves the "powers", and luckily there has never been an issue with the event itself.
I would def go after that hotel for being crooks. They just cost those involved a lot of money. It's sad to have watched this happen to an event with so much potential. If they have contracts, I say get em.
It was a "sting" in a way. The event was widely promoted (in an area that seems to hate raves), there were newspaper articles, etc etc etc. The cops knew if was coming. It was not a surprise. If the venue had been up to fire codes, and the hotel owners made sure that everything was cool on their end, and the promoters had all their permits in order and insurance, they would not have legally been able to do what they did, and if they did it anyway, you could sue. It sucks....and its a hassle....but playing their game can sometimes protect the continuity of our game....
I agree totally, leave the venue alone....no offense to CT, but I've been wary of events there since Pyro last year. I had never been anywhere where something like that happened. I hope that future events work out better for everyone involved.
A "new maintenance staff" was brought in that week and the old ones had been fired. There's more going on than you think. Coincedences are utterly alarming. If you saw the things I found out, you'd be like holy f*ck, trust me. |
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neighborhood crime
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Posted - 08/26/2010 : 10:43:24 AM
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| I don't know why I have the random luck of seeing everything all the time but I wish I could be oblivious. This has always happened to me and I hate that. Normally, I would go 100% with what you say but I know too many people in connecticut. I know that 99 - 00 nj / nyc was going through the same problems and it turned out that the feds were involved in some seriously grimey and shady shit. This stuff ended up showing by the time unite at the wave happened and really showed what was going on at zen festival nj and destination earth. We had 24 hour notification on parties back then but the police kept showing and shutting shit down. Why did that happen? They were monitoring the infolines. Knock me for being "paranoid" but there's a lot of f*cked up history repeating itself. The press getting involved in things and mayors and town boards that out of nowhere, decide that these types of events are so wrong for the public? Sarno has only been mayor since about '07 so he's not the man who shutdown the asylum. So this attack makes absolutley no sense. Especially considering that events have happened during his term and now out of nowhere, they're totally bad for the public? |
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dvs109
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Posted - 08/26/2010 : 11:24:38 AM
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quote: Originally posted by neighborhood crime
I don't know why I have the random luck of seeing everything all the time but I wish I could be oblivious. This has always happened to me and I hate that. Normally, I would go 100% with what you say but I know too many people in connecticut. I know that 99 - 00 nj / nyc was going through the same problems and it turned out that the feds were involved in some seriously grimey and shady shit. This stuff ended up showing by the time unite at the wave happened and really showed what was going on at zen festival nj and destination earth. We had 24 hour notification on parties back then but the police kept showing and shutting shit down. Why did that happen? They were monitoring the infolines. Knock me for being "paranoid" but there's a lot of f*cked up history repeating itself. The press getting involved in things and mayors and town boards that out of nowhere, decide that these types of events are so wrong for the public? Sarno has only been mayor since about '07 so he's not the man who shutdown the asylum. So this attack makes absolutley no sense. Especially considering that events have happened during his term and now out of nowhere, they're totally bad for the public?
Take a look at your screenname, some of this stuff happens by association.
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neighborhood crime
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Posted - 08/26/2010 : 11:44:56 AM
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quote: Originally posted by dvs109
quote: Originally posted by neighborhood crime
I don't know why I have the random luck of seeing everything all the time but I wish I could be oblivious. This has always happened to me and I hate that. Normally, I would go 100% with what you say but I know too many people in connecticut. I know that 99 - 00 nj / nyc was going through the same problems and it turned out that the feds were involved in some seriously grimey and shady shit. This stuff ended up showing by the time unite at the wave happened and really showed what was going on at zen festival nj and destination earth. We had 24 hour notification on parties back then but the police kept showing and shutting shit down. Why did that happen? They were monitoring the infolines. Knock me for being "paranoid" but there's a lot of f*cked up history repeating itself. The press getting involved in things and mayors and town boards that out of nowhere, decide that these types of events are so wrong for the public? Sarno has only been mayor since about '07 so he's not the man who shutdown the asylum. So this attack makes absolutley no sense. Especially considering that events have happened during his term and now out of nowhere, they're totally bad for the public?
Take a look at your screenname, some of this stuff happens by association.
f*ck em, I say. I've seen them waste their time for years. Ultimately, their efforts turn up to be nothing. I've seen the dogs, the riot gear, the helicopters and the unnecessary waste of taxpayer money before and they have yet to break me. As far as looking @ me, waste of time. |
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neighborhood crime
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dvs109
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Posted - 08/26/2010 : 11:51:17 AM
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The heli usuauly means that their are suspected criminals in the area. They are used to trace and hunt them down.
so tell me what does your screenname represent? and what do you mean "have yet to break me"?
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neighborhood crime
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Posted - 08/26/2010 : 2:17:26 PM
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quote: Originally posted by dvs109
The heli usuauly means that their are suspected criminals in the area. They are used to trace and hunt them down.
so tell me what does your screenname represent? and what do you mean "have yet to break me"?
They used a heli in houston @ cyberfest which I also lived in texas too lol and my screen name is a neophyte track. Yet to break me means my will to continue going out. Whats devious mean? |
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