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djlabratory
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 Posted - 02/17/2010 : 01:32:30 AM
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A. I don't rap over vocals
actually>You do! If you were one of the MCs during the Fixx set you def. dropped Mic chatter over a super dope track w/ vocals already in it...Im a huge Fixx fan and i love everything he produces & that kinda lame-sauced it for me bro...but whateva!!!no biggie...
God Willing>Ill see him again without an MC...
if not...
again>NO biggie!!!
I think the topic has gotten astray...
Its not about MCs AT events...
thats gonna happen...of course!!!and sometimes its hype...no joke!
ive seen Freaky Flow w/MC Flipside (and many others) destroy it live...
i think its more about WHEN and WHEN NOT to drop rhymes on da mic...
and Plume was right when he said> the older crowd (like me)arent big fans of MCs Rappin' on da Mic...Its cool that you can rhyme and spit that fast but Its NOT everyones cup o' tea...
remember that opinions are like assholes...everyones got one!
even YOU MCs...
Reeeeeeeeeeespect!!!
inside!
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HippieFlip
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 01:51:04 AM
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Ok so a DJ does his shit and an MC does his shit. leave it at that. if you didn't like it, i think there was 2 other rooms going on at the same time. Stop being curfunkled about that.
MC's yous the shit and don't let no haters f*ck your style.
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Parkay
Upstate Underground Moderator
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 02:09:40 AM
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I like mc's over certain sets..
Some sets they just dont belong.. Although Murdok has gotten on my nerves at times when he takes the mic alot.. he def has been getting better and learning when and when not to go on..
You guys all Gotta remember we are the WORST area for DNB in the entire state.. Everywhere else THUMPS mc's and THUMPS dnb like its there job..
These guys are usta coming from BLO and ROCHEster and Places that absoutely LOVE mc over dnb.. As much as I dislike most dnb.. you gotta cut them some slack.. W/out them we would barely have a dnb scene here..
Hoogs and murdok and smd and them are prolly the reason half this dnb scene still supports syracuse around here.. And leila
most of our personal DNB locals besides Dmilitant arent very experieneced or traveled around the state...
Swan7 is pretty decent, Ganixx, isis, SPace one, Ricky Tee is aight but most of them arent hardcore dnb enthusiats..
Silas dropped out of the Jungle game awhile ago.. Milkdud stopped.. WE lack alot of Dnb culture here w/out st8cyde and basha and the buff/roch kids |
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Leila
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 04:38:06 AM
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^^^ thanks - but your forgetting mentally ill too!!! He does a LOT for dnb in albany & has traveled (almost) as much as me ;)
Personally - I can't stand having an mc MOST of the time... there are always a few exceptions.
I prefer to know ahead of time that I'm gonna have an MC so I don't pick out a bunch of tracks to bring to a show with me that are chock full of vocals!!!
Most annoying thing EVER though:::::
WHEN AN MC ASKS A DJ IF THEY CAN RHYME OVER THEIR SET DURING A MIX...
It f*cked up one of my fav. mixes to do @ Trexx the other night putting me in a pissy mood for the rest of my set :( It happened @ "This is how we do it" as well...
My second biggest problem with MC's....
When they don't know how to shut up. People are there (usually) to see the DJ playing - not hear the MC. Soooooooooo... learn how to compliment the DJ - not over power them! It's really annoying when someone is talking over breakdowns or (some) buildups. Maybe if the MC's knew the tracks a lil better they'd know the breaks were coming? but you can expect every MC to know EVERY dnb track that EVER existed - it's just completely unreasonable and unfair - but - beat counting could help this out! ;) If I did want to have an MC though - I'd make sure that it was someone who knew all of my tracks already - or I'd at least give them the tracks I planned on dropping ahead of time to prevent those sort of "annoyances".
Granted - there are a few acts (like St8cyde) that thrive off of having MC's doing their thing over every second of their set - & they make it sound good with that style - but I don't feel that works with every style of dnb at all....
So - that's enough of my $.02 on MC's ;)
Back to the party!!!
I got there pretty late compared to when I wanted to - but I still had an awesome time! I hate being short though :( lol... it makes it hard to see the crowd with a computer in front of me from the other dj's who don't spin vinyl :( next time I'll try to remember to have that moved for my set ;)
I somehow didn't see a bunch of the people that i know were there - but like i said - i got there late :( It was awesome to hear some GREAT dubstep though before my set!!! I'm pretty picky about dubstep so it's great when dj's drop some sick stuff!!! I try listening to it every now & then & sometimes it's just horrible - but what I heard that night was AWESOME!!!!
I can't wait for the cold weather to end though!!! My hands were freeeeeeeezing when I got on the decks - but I warmed up pretty quickly after that ;)
I wish we coulda stayed & partied afterwards but I had to play in CT the next night so heading back to Albany seemed like the best idea if I expected to get any sleep at all. I can't wait to come up there & do it again sometime soon!!! Thanks again to Mikey for having me out & to everyone who stayed & danced through my set!!! Syracuse is still my favorite place to play & you guys never let me down!!!  |
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dvs109
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 06:04:00 AM
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im going to cross thread here to make my point
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taken from Wowd review thread-posted by mikey: in my opinion.. I don't think the venue makes a difference.. All single genre's parties are VERY hard to promote successfully.. It does'nt really matter who it is playing not everyone comes for just 1 genre anymore.. even all house events usually suck.. or all dubstep or whatever the case maybe.. the correct formula seems to be multie genre multiple semi headliner events.. not 1 big headliner of 1 single genre..
I dont think it woulda mattered if it was at fort choas or bubbles your targeting such a small community of people with no real catch theme to the night an extremely high price tag for 1 headliner.. So only the junglists who are die hard really showed up to support it..
Great talent only counts ofr 1/3 of the people usually attending at least from my countless experience from doing syracuse shows...
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posted by Mikey: You guys all Gotta remember we are the WORST area for DNB in the entire state.. Everywhere else THUMPS mc's and THUMPS dnb like its there job..
These guys are usta coming from BLO and ROCHEster and Places that absoutely LOVE mc over dnb.. As much as I dislike most dnb.. you gotta cut them some slack.. W/out them we would barely have a dnb scene here..
Hoogs and murdok and smd and them are prolly the reason half this dnb scene still supports syracuse around here.. And leila
most of our personal DNB locals besides Dmilitant arent very experieneced or traveled around the state...
Swan7 is pretty decent, Ganixx, isis, SPace one, Ricky Tee is aight but most of them arent hardcore dnb enthusiats..
Silas dropped out of the Jungle game awhile ago.. Milkdud stopped.. WE lack alot of Dnb culture here w/out st8cyde and basha and the buff/roch kids
you have this all wrong, those guys are known and respected..but you are trying to shop this dnb mc thing right now to the ppl that are clearly not into the mc'ing. Then you are condescending to the other dnb dj's and they are ppl that you book sometimes. I dont see why you are bringing them into this in this manner. When you openly admit that you dont even like most dnb then you shouldnt have much of a say about the dnb/jungle scene. Because you have this all wrong here.
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SMD
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 09:55:06 AM
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Originally posted by djlabratory
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A. I don't rap over vocals
actually>You do! If you were one of the MCs during the Fixx set you def. dropped Mic chatter over a super dope track w/ vocals already in it...Im a huge Fixx fan and i love everything he produces & that kinda lame-sauced it for me bro...but whateva!!!no biggie...
God Willing>Ill see him again without an MC...
if not...
again>NO biggie!!!
I think the topic has gotten astray...
Its not about MCs AT events...
thats gonna happen...of course!!!and sometimes its hype...no joke!
ive seen Freaky Flow w/MC Flipside (and many others) destroy it live...
i think its more about WHEN and WHEN NOT to drop rhymes on da mic...
and Plume was right when he said> the older crowd (like me)arent big fans of MCs Rappin' on da Mic...Its cool that you can rhyme and spit that fast but Its NOT everyones cup o' tea...
remember that opinions are like assholes...everyones got one!
even YOU MCs...
Reeeeeeeeeeespect!!!
inside!
lol:)
To Assume= Ass out of U and Me
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SMD
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 10:25:50 AM
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Originally posted by dvs109
im going to cross thread here to make my point
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taken from Wowd review thread-posted by mikey: in my opinion.. I don't think the venue makes a difference.. All single genre's parties are VERY hard to promote successfully.. It does'nt really matter who it is playing not everyone comes for just 1 genre anymore.. even all house events usually suck.. or all dubstep or whatever the case maybe.. the correct formula seems to be multie genre multiple semi headliner events.. not 1 big headliner of 1 single genre..
I dont think it woulda mattered if it was at fort choas or bubbles your targeting such a small community of people with no real catch theme to the night an extremely high price tag for 1 headliner.. So only the junglists who are die hard really showed up to support it..
Great talent only counts ofr 1/3 of the people usually attending at least from my countless experience from doing syracuse shows...
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posted by Mikey: You guys all Gotta remember we are the WORST area for DNB in the entire state.. Everywhere else THUMPS mc's and THUMPS dnb like its there job..
These guys are usta coming from BLO and ROCHEster and Places that absoutely LOVE mc over dnb.. As much as I dislike most dnb.. you gotta cut them some slack.. W/out them we would barely have a dnb scene here..
Hoogs and murdok and smd and them are prolly the reason half this dnb scene still supports syracuse around here.. And leila
most of our personal DNB locals besides Dmilitant arent very experieneced or traveled around the state...
Swan7 is pretty decent, Ganixx, isis, SPace one, Ricky Tee is aight but most of them arent hardcore dnb enthusiats..
Silas dropped out of the Jungle game awhile ago.. Milkdud stopped.. WE lack alot of Dnb culture here w/out st8cyde and basha and the buff/roch kids
you have this all wrong, those guys are known and respected..but you are trying to shop this dnb mc thing right now to the ppl that are clearly not into the mc'ing. Then you are condescending to the other dnb dj's and they are ppl that you book sometimes. I dont see why you are bringing them into this in this manner. When you openly admit that you dont even like most dnb then you shouldnt have much of a say about the dnb/jungle scene. Because you have this all wrong here.
One last thing on this, I feel like theres about 5-10 people, mainly people on this forum who aren't INTO MCing; and I personally wouldn't want to even be on any other kind of set besides DnB or Dubstep so I can see your point on that; but if you truly are a Drum and Bass head/ junglist and you hate on MCs you probably wouldn't like going to a REAL Jungle party; in Spain, the UK guys (AKA the creators of Drum and Bass) had about 4 people on the mic at a time and hardly ever quiet down; and if you haven't the opportunity to go there, go see how they do it in Toronto; or do yourself a favor and just download a mix and see if the MCs are rapping on the breakdown, GOD FORBID you Rap on the quietest part of a track to add to the buildup before a drop, That just makes absolutely NOOOO sense musically (I hope you can sense the sarcasm there)
I really am embarrassed to be in this argument, and I really don't even want to argue it because it seems futile really. But I know that hating is a natural part of getting bigger, so that's fine; I'll leave you with an old lyric this reminds me of;
ever since a late teen/ I had a great scheme/ to make green and skate clean and make dream come true/ some hate me but f*ck you/ I'm great g so what's new/ but lately I LOVE you cuz hate be my jet fuel
so my sincerest thank yous for all criticism in the above thread, you've just inspired me to make more and continue to get better :)
(i don't mean to come off as a pompous ass either, but I take pride in what I do and for good reason, so just setting shit straight here) |
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Sean Place
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 10:48:15 AM
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plume
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 11:50:02 AM
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Originally posted by SMD
A. I don't rap over vocals
B. I do listen to and respect constructive criticism, and I believe its a major reason why I've gotten as far as I have thus far
C. I usually never really care what ppl say abt me one way or the other, but the initial review was just soo negative and off base, I had to react
That's fair, no one likes to hear negative comments about their work. Your ideas are good. Someone (you?) mentioned the separate sound system for the mic - that's golden and is something that should be implemented. I'd pursue that idea if you're not already.
More of us should have all of our own gear - PA systems, MICS, dj equipment etc. and not rely solely on the promoter or club. Bands bring their own gear, why shouldn't we?
Finally if you are able to keep perspective put your ego aside and are doing something that you LOVE - that will shine through all of it. Keep at it. Respect to you and your crew, that's important! |
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plume
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 11:58:43 AM
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Originally posted by Leila
Most annoying thing EVER though:::::
WHEN AN MC ASKS A DJ IF THEY CAN RHYME OVER THEIR SET DURING A MIX...
It f*cked up one of my fav. mixes to do @ Trexx the other night putting me in a pissy mood for the rest of my set :( It happened @ "This is how we do it" as well...
No doubt. That's one of the most disrespectful things anyone can do during a set however keep in mind that most people 1. have no idea how much focus we need as djs while in the middle of a mix, 2. don't care, 3. are only focused on MCing or their stupid request for a Britney rmx.
All that said what I've learned throughout the years is that you need to be super upfront about this, wave them off, yell do what ever it takes. Also don't let it ruin a WHOLE set, ever. If you can't deal w/ distractions you'll never make it! |
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Parkay
Upstate Underground Moderator
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 12:23:15 PM
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Originally posted by dvs109
im going to cross thread here to make my point
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taken from Wowd review thread-posted by mikey: in my opinion.. I don't think the venue makes a difference.. All single genre's parties are VERY hard to promote successfully.. It does'nt really matter who it is playing not everyone comes for just 1 genre anymore.. even all house events usually suck.. or all dubstep or whatever the case maybe.. the correct formula seems to be multie genre multiple semi headliner events.. not 1 big headliner of 1 single genre..
I dont think it woulda mattered if it was at fort choas or bubbles your targeting such a small community of people with no real catch theme to the night an extremely high price tag for 1 headliner.. So only the junglists who are die hard really showed up to support it..
Great talent only counts ofr 1/3 of the people usually attending at least from my countless experience from doing syracuse shows...
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posted by Mikey: You guys all Gotta remember we are the WORST area for DNB in the entire state.. Everywhere else THUMPS mc's and THUMPS dnb like its there job..
These guys are usta coming from BLO and ROCHEster and Places that absoutely LOVE mc over dnb.. As much as I dislike most dnb.. you gotta cut them some slack.. W/out them we would barely have a dnb scene here..
Hoogs and murdok and smd and them are prolly the reason half this dnb scene still supports syracuse around here.. And leila
most of our personal DNB locals besides Dmilitant arent very experieneced or traveled around the state...
Swan7 is pretty decent, Ganixx, isis, SPace one, Ricky Tee is aight but most of them arent hardcore dnb enthusiats..
Silas dropped out of the Jungle game awhile ago.. Milkdud stopped.. WE lack alot of Dnb culture here w/out st8cyde and basha and the buff/roch kids
you have this all wrong, those guys are known and respected..but you are trying to shop this dnb mc thing right now to the ppl that are clearly not into the mc'ing. Then you are condescending to the other dnb dj's and they are ppl that you book sometimes. I dont see why you are bringing them into this in this manner. When you openly admit that you dont even like most dnb then you shouldnt have much of a say about the dnb/jungle scene. Because you have this all wrong here.
What exactly does me liking DNB have to do with ANYTHING whatsoever about booking it?
Do you think every guy from ultra likes everything from ultra on the roster?
My guess is def not, sometimes as a promoter MUST book what he doesnt like to make a good show.. Thats what a promoter does.. Find the Talent, Book it and throw a good show?
Im kinda missing the point about why a promoter is only allowed to throw stuff he/she personally likes |
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PL@N3MO
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 12:37:45 PM
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Originally posted by Parkay
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Originally posted by dvs109
im going to cross thread here to make my point
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taken from Wowd review thread-posted by mikey: in my opinion.. I don't think the venue makes a difference.. All single genre's parties are VERY hard to promote successfully.. It does'nt really matter who it is playing not everyone comes for just 1 genre anymore.. even all house events usually suck.. or all dubstep or whatever the case maybe.. the correct formula seems to be multie genre multiple semi headliner events.. not 1 big headliner of 1 single genre..
I dont think it woulda mattered if it was at fort choas or bubbles your targeting such a small community of people with no real catch theme to the night an extremely high price tag for 1 headliner.. So only the junglists who are die hard really showed up to support it..
Great talent only counts ofr 1/3 of the people usually attending at least from my countless experience from doing syracuse shows...
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posted by Mikey: You guys all Gotta remember we are the WORST area for DNB in the entire state.. Everywhere else THUMPS mc's and THUMPS dnb like its there job..
These guys are usta coming from BLO and ROCHEster and Places that absoutely LOVE mc over dnb.. As much as I dislike most dnb.. you gotta cut them some slack.. W/out them we would barely have a dnb scene here..
Hoogs and murdok and smd and them are prolly the reason half this dnb scene still supports syracuse around here.. And leila
most of our personal DNB locals besides Dmilitant arent very experieneced or traveled around the state...
Swan7 is pretty decent, Ganixx, isis, SPace one, Ricky Tee is aight but most of them arent hardcore dnb enthusiats..
Silas dropped out of the Jungle game awhile ago.. Milkdud stopped.. WE lack alot of Dnb culture here w/out st8cyde and basha and the buff/roch kids
you have this all wrong, those guys are known and respected..but you are trying to shop this dnb mc thing right now to the ppl that are clearly not into the mc'ing. Then you are condescending to the other dnb dj's and they are ppl that you book sometimes. I dont see why you are bringing them into this in this manner. When you openly admit that you dont even like most dnb then you shouldnt have much of a say about the dnb/jungle scene. Because you have this all wrong here.
What exactly does me liking DNB have to do with ANYTHING whatsoever about booking it?
Do you think every guy from ultra likes everything from ultra on the roster?
My guess is def not, sometimes as a promoter MUST book what he doesnt like to make a good show.. Thats what a promoter does.. Find the Talent, Book it and throw a good show?
Im kinda missing the point about why a promoter is only allowed to throw stuff he/she personally likes
agreed. Sometimes you have to book genres that you personally don't like, but will draw a decent crowd or add to the musical diversity of the event. |
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Parkay
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dvs109
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 6:12:51 PM
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I understand booking dnb even if you dont like it that much, thats not an issue.
If you re-read what I posted- what I was saying is that you were giving props about the out of town dnb acts to the ppl that were not into the MCing but then you were down playing the local dnb djs. I dont see why they got brought into the mc debate.
Because the local dnb djs are not going to worship these guys on your stage if you are downplaying them.
Im saying that the condecension was noticed and since you are not a dnb enthusiast yourself then you should not be trying to break down the dnb scene here because you have it all wrong with that.
drum n bass djs do not downplay each other, you should never do that.
I do agree about fort chaos in the sense that you can hold a *private party* there,
but you simply cannot openly promote an event in a place that is un-licensed.
what I do not understand is why all that scrutinizing info about alcohol was blown open on here?!?
that is something that you should not do |
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Parkay
Upstate Underground Moderator
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 8:15:40 PM
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Originally posted by dvs109
I understand booking dnb even if you dont like it that much, thats not an issue.
If you re-read what I posted- what I was saying is that you were giving props about the out of town dnb acts to the ppl that were not into the MCing but then you were down playing the local dnb djs. I dont see why they got brought into the mc debate.
Because the local dnb djs are not going to worship these guys on your stage if you are downplaying them.
Im saying that the condecension was noticed and since you are not a dnb enthusiast yourself then you should not be trying to break down the dnb scene here because you have it all wrong with that.
drum n bass djs do not downplay each other, you should never do that.
I do agree about fort chaos in the sense that you can hold a *private party* there,
but you simply cannot openly promote an event in a place that is un-licensed.
what I do not understand is why all that scrutinizing info about alcohol was blown open on here?!?
that is something that you should not do
Na I feel you. . and thats why it was edited.. I didn't mean that as harshly as it came out bad choice of words.. HOWEVER, Todd regardless of the Turnout STILL made the RIGHT choice bringing Bryan to Bubbles.. Sometimes its not about the illusion of packed.. or the money its about the safety and control of your enviroment.. Those 45 people got the drink, dance, and look at pretty lights w/out the risk of nonsense.. and he made the right move good turnout or bad.. |
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MandaM
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 10:25:04 PM
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WHOA! I haven't posted in so long! But this party was so kick ass I couldn't resist!! Well Parkay, AMAZING time once again, as always!!! Thank you, thank you :)
Wow, I thought this was an event review though?! AND I <3 MC's. I <3 DnB and Dubstep, think MCing over anything but is pretty lame AS WELL... But maybe that convo should be in another thread? |
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Leila
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 04:04:56 AM
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Originally posted by SMD
One last thing on this, I feel like theres about 5-10 people, mainly people on this forum who aren't INTO MCing; and I personally wouldn't want to even be on any other kind of set besides DnB or Dubstep so I can see your point on that; but if you truly are a Drum and Bass head/ junglist and you hate on MCs you probably wouldn't like going to a REAL Jungle party; in Spain, the UK guys (AKA the creators of Drum and Bass) had about 4 people on the mic at a time and hardly ever quiet down; and if you haven't the opportunity to go there, go see how they do it in Toronto; or do yourself a favor and just download a mix and see if the MCs are rapping on the breakdown, GOD FORBID you Rap on the quietest part of a track to add to the buildup before a drop, That just makes absolutely NOOOO sense musically (I hope you can sense the sarcasm there)
I really am embarrassed to be in this argument, and I really don't even want to argue it because it seems futile really. But I know that hating is a natural part of getting bigger, so that's fine; I'll leave you with an old lyric this reminds me of;
ever since a late teen/ I had a great scheme/ to make green and skate clean and make dream come true/ some hate me but f*ck you/ I'm great g so what's new/ but lately I LOVE you cuz hate be my jet fuel
so my sincerest thank yous for all criticism in the above thread, you've just inspired me to make more and continue to get better :)
(i don't mean to come off as a pompous ass either, but I take pride in what I do and for good reason, so just setting shit straight here)
You should take pride in what you do! But you should also not be on here trying to say that people who don't like mc's aren't going to like a "true jungle party" - THAT'S being a "pompous ass" (your words...)
There's a way to do it so it sounds good on a break - & there's a way to do it so it sounds like the MC is just screaming "memememememememememememememememe!!! Everybody look at mememememememememememememe!!!"... Do u see the difference??? IMO it sounds best if an MC is hyping up the crowd during a break/build up - not acting like there was no change in the music at all! Recognizing the difference between changes & adjusting your vocals accordingly makes a BIG difference in how good an MC sounds & I KNOW I'm not one of "only 5" people on here that think so...
Now - let me also say - I never thought you were a bad MC - in fact - I usually kinda like listening to you (I've even tried to convince people to book you specifically!) - and I was never attacking anyone on here at all - but it seems like you were a lil threatened by other people on this board & felt like dragging what I said into the middle of it all. Recognize who was criticizing you before you bring unnecessary anger towards the wrong people!!! Accepting criticism from other people and improving from it only helps you in the long run to become better at everything you do. Lashing out on the other hand - makes you look weak - & assuming that people don't like "real jungle parties" cause they don't like MC's IS lashing out...
How come everytime I check a review thread it's somehow turned into a battle of ppl arguing SOMETHING????
WTF guys??? What happened to PLUR!!! lol |
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SMD
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 09:48:40 AM
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Originally posted by Leila
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Originally posted by SMD
One last thing on this, I feel like theres about 5-10 people, mainly people on this forum who aren't INTO MCing; and I personally wouldn't want to even be on any other kind of set besides DnB or Dubstep so I can see your point on that; but if you truly are a Drum and Bass head/ junglist and you hate on MCs you probably wouldn't like going to a REAL Jungle party; in Spain, the UK guys (AKA the creators of Drum and Bass) had about 4 people on the mic at a time and hardly ever quiet down; and if you haven't the opportunity to go there, go see how they do it in Toronto; or do yourself a favor and just download a mix and see if the MCs are rapping on the breakdown, GOD FORBID you Rap on the quietest part of a track to add to the buildup before a drop, That just makes absolutely NOOOO sense musically (I hope you can sense the sarcasm there)
I really am embarrassed to be in this argument, and I really don't even want to argue it because it seems futile really. But I know that hating is a natural part of getting bigger, so that's fine; I'll leave you with an old lyric this reminds me of;
ever since a late teen/ I had a great scheme/ to make green and skate clean and make dream come true/ some hate me but f*ck you/ I'm great g so what's new/ but lately I LOVE you cuz hate be my jet fuel
so my sincerest thank yous for all criticism in the above thread, you've just inspired me to make more and continue to get better :)
(i don't mean to come off as a pompous ass either, but I take pride in what I do and for good reason, so just setting shit straight here)
You should take pride in what you do! But you should also not be on here trying to say that people who don't like mc's aren't going to like a "true jungle party" - THAT'S being a "pompous ass" (your words...)
There's a way to do it so it sounds good on a break - & there's a way to do it so it sounds like the MC is just screaming "memememememememememememememememe!!! Everybody look at mememememememememememememe!!!"... Do u see the difference??? IMO it sounds best if an MC is hyping up the crowd during a break/build up - not acting like there was no change in the music at all! Recognizing the difference between changes & adjusting your vocals accordingly makes a BIG difference in how good an MC sounds & I KNOW I'm not one of "only 5" people on here that think so...
Now - let me also say - I never thought you were a bad MC - in fact - I usually kinda like listening to you (I've even tried to convince people to book you specifically!) - and I was never attacking anyone on here at all - but it seems like you were a lil threatened by other people on this board & felt like dragging what I said into the middle of it all. Recognize who was criticizing you before you bring unnecessary anger towards the wrong people!!! Accepting criticism from other people and improving from it only helps you in the long run to become better at everything you do. Lashing out on the other hand - makes you look weak - & assuming that people don't like "real jungle parties" cause they don't like MC's IS lashing out...
How come everytime I check a review thread it's somehow turned into a battle of ppl arguing SOMETHING????
WTF guys??? What happened to PLUR!!! lol
I'm sorry :)
(I still think a jungle party ain't a party w/ out an MC tho, although it can be done, most don't do it) |
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Sean Place
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 11:20:39 AM
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| not to discredit anyone but a lot of drum n bass/jungle fliers don't even have MCs listed on them. If they do its Dj someone feat. Mc someone else OR some such party HOSTED by MC yada yada. There is a reason people make fliers, so people know what to expect when they get there. I for one pride myself in being specific on my fliers. Like I said, my only gripe is when MCs just blah blah blah over the music without even working with the drops and samples or they are rhyming over someone without thier knowledge or permission. Just shows lack of talent and respect. bottom line, we are all artists and deserve credit where credit is due. there is no final say in who is good, what is bad, why we do what we do. its all opinion, MC or otherwise and the review section should be use to help further your artist abilites through critique. so lets do that. |
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SMD
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