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Thomas J
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 Posted - 03/11/2010 : 5:48:52 PM
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garage isn't a dubstep genre!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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gomer
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PL@N3MO
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plume
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 5:52:40 PM
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Originally posted by Modulate
dubstep should not have it's own forum. it's a mid-tempo breakbeat sub-genre and therefore belongs in the breaks forum.
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plume
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 5:54:48 PM
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Originally posted by The PHUNgEYE
Dubstep and fidget should be at least recognized under there respected Genres.
Dubstep- Drum & Bass. Yes folks it IS a subgenre.
Fidget- House.
I don't think ppl are buying that dubstep is a subgenre of dnb. It's a second cousin really, not a brother.
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plume
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 5:56:56 PM
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Originally posted by Plan3m0
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Originally posted by zoot
Whoops forgot to add harddance,techno,and breaks in there seems like this is more fitting of its own genre seeing as how it blends them all except drum and bass, but i am sure some dnb will start being mixed in there soon hey maybe i got something there hmmm.
it's not at the BMP of drum N bass, which is usually 160-180. Dubstep is @ 130-140.. half tempo of course.
There is half tempo dnb, called "drumstep" which you can mix w. dnb. its basically faster paced dubstep. Ask Swan about that shiz.
wrong. breakstep is dubstep tempo with a breakbeat in it - not a simple two step break, that's it. Drumfunk is the 170 bpm equivalent. |
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plume
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 5:59:21 PM
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Originally posted by Clotho
I don't know where dubstep should go, but it's definitely NOT a sub-genre of breakbeat...the song structure and beat structure (the 2 main things that make breaks what it is) for dubstep is just too different...dubstep evolved from garage/2-step/grime, not breakbeat
if it gets it's own forum, it should be grouped together with garage, 2-step, future garage, UK Funky, bashment, grime, etc
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dude it's a broken beat at 140 bpm. that's what a breakbeat is too. you're arguing about an extra snare hit at this point. |
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plume
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 6:01:41 PM
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but... how do I feel about it's own forum? pointless, just like all the other genre forums!
(except the d'n'b) of course. |
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CrazyRaver
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 6:32:13 PM
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And Professor Plume Selector has concluded class for the day kids. You can pick up ur papers with corrections at his desk and go home and ponder that shit while smoking a bowl!  |
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PL@N3MO
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 8:46:49 PM
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Originally posted by plume
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Originally posted by Plan3m0
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Originally posted by zoot
Whoops forgot to add harddance,techno,and breaks in there seems like this is more fitting of its own genre seeing as how it blends them all except drum and bass, but i am sure some dnb will start being mixed in there soon hey maybe i got something there hmmm.
it's not at the BMP of drum N bass, which is usually 160-180. Dubstep is @ 130-140.. half tempo of course.
There is half tempo dnb, called "drumstep" which you can mix w. dnb. its basically faster paced dubstep. Ask Swan about that shiz.
wrong. breakstep is dubstep tempo with a breakbeat in it - not a simple two step break, that's it. Drumfunk is the 170 bpm equivalent.
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PL@N3MO
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 8:56:44 PM
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Originally posted by plume
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Originally posted by Plan3m0
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Originally posted by zoot
Whoops forgot to add harddance,techno,and breaks in there seems like this is more fitting of its own genre seeing as how it blends them all except drum and bass, but i am sure some dnb will start being mixed in there soon hey maybe i got something there hmmm.
it's not at the BMP of drum N bass, which is usually 160-180. Dubstep is @ 130-140.. half tempo of course.
There is half tempo dnb, called "drumstep" which you can mix w. dnb. its basically faster paced dubstep. Ask Swan about that shiz.
wrong. breakstep is dubstep tempo with a breakbeat in it - not a simple two step break, that's it. Drumfunk is the 170 bpm equivalent.
drumfunk = drumstep? 2...many... subgenres..
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zoot
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 10:01:44 PM
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| Fidget and 4x4 garage are nearly one and the same check it out people |
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Posted - 03/12/2010 : 10:17:21 PM
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Originally posted by zoot
Fidget and 4x4 garage are nearly one and the same check it out people
both are excellent though! |
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t3uth
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plume
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Posted - 03/14/2010 : 11:33:00 AM
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Originally posted by Plan3m0
drumfunk = drumstep? 2...many... subgenres..
Happy Minimal Breakcore
no sorry. First off, you're right there's too many sub genres, but I do find them helpful for quickly identifying music, I find them annoying because djs will stick to one sub genre and then move on the the next hot thing. It's ok, I've done it myself any way... to clarify:
breakstep is a subgenre in dubstep. What defines this style is having a sampled break beat instead of using a drum machine style drum pattern. For example the Amen break (sampled from Amen Brother - Winstons) would be used in place of your basic two step drum pattern, (think most dubstep tunes). Tunes are in the 140 bpm range.
drumfunk is a sub genre for d'n'b. Again instead of using drum machine break beats the producers are using a sampled break beat of a live drummer. A popular break to use in this genre is Funky Drummer or Tighten Up. What separates this from other styles in d'n'b is the lack of any sort of simple kick snare (two step) drum pattern. If you want a clear definition of what this sounds like listen to any Paradox tune - this is the only style the man produces. 170 bpm range here. This is the only difference between the two genres in my opinion, tempo.
Drumfunk was coined by paradox - as his music had become a reaction to the over simplification and "clowniness" associated w/ popular d'n'b. Around 2002-2003 Clownstep was coined (i forget who came up w/ this? Adam F maybe?) and while it was similar to the jump up styles of the late 90s it was even more over the top and lacked the hip hop element associated w/ jump up. A lot of old school producers jumped on this "non-bandwagon" called drumfunk which is thought to take d'n'b back to it's heritage of finding interesting funk drum samples and using them in a tune - usually as the focal point. If you listen to early techno, or "jungle techno" you'll hear what I would call proto-breakstep, proto jungle, and proto d'n'b, this just means that d'n'b came from techno as some of the producers in the early 90s experimented w/ using sampled break beats (ultra beat) instead of a simple 4X4 kick drum. The two genres broke away from each other and we started hearing what we now know as techno, and what we know as jungle (specifically oldschool jungle).
phew. and that really only scratches the surface.
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