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Juniper
Upstate Underground Moderator
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 Posted - 06/23/2011 : 08:01:10 AM
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| ignorance is bliss. If you had it figured out why do you ask. Alex like many artist had a vision of a huge place to host his art and share it with many. A place where they could do multi media events. A place to do yoga live healthy and to be free of the close minded poopie as we have seen in this thread. No killing or worshiping the devil or a space shuttle is coming to take us away hahaha I bet Depth has some insight on this as well. No biggie just the UU shining its love colors. His terminology is very common talk when speaking of something that feels spiritual and powerful to them. I would not have really called the pranksters a cult yet they kind of the same thing in the 60s. Typical NC stuff here. Whats this mean but wait min let me tell you what it means. Wait i dont understand it cuz im outside the box looking in. Waite I hated it any way lol Good stuff!! |
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dr morozoff
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 08:58:34 AM
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Originally posted by Juniper
ignorance is bliss. If you had it figured out why do you ask. Alex like many artist had a vision of a huge place to host his art and share it with many. A place where they could do multi media events. A place to do yoga live healthy and to be free of the close minded poopie as we have seen in this thread. No killing or worshiping the devil or a space shuttle is coming to take us away hahaha I bet Depth has some insight on this as well. No biggie just the UU shining its love colors. His terminology is very common talk when speaking of something that feels spiritual and powerful to them. I would not have really called the pranksters a cult yet they kind of the same thing in the 60s. Typical NC stuff here. Whats this mean but wait min let me tell you what it means. Wait i dont understand it cuz im outside the box looking in. Waite I hated it any way lol Good stuff!!
you know man, calling anyone who can't understand the stuff you're into close-minded is rather...well, close-minded in itself is it not? i've always found the exclusionary language you spiritual folks bandy about rather disconcerting considering that it generally flies in the face of what you appear to preach.
just sayin'. |
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Indrid Cold
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 09:16:54 AM
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| I think what Juniper is addressing is NC's obvious lack of respect for a well established artist. He's close minded not because he doesnt understand his work but rather because hes calling him and cultist, when he has no idea what hes talking about (as usual). It has nothing to do with NC subscribing to what he's believes but just correcting his simple ignorance and mis-statements. |
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dosethealien
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 10:28:18 AM
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taken from their facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/SacredMirrors
"The Mission of the Chapel of Sacred Mirrors, CoSM, is to build an enduring sanctuary of visionary art to inspire every pilgrim's creative path and embody the values of love and perennial wisdom. The Chapel of Sacred Mirrors, CoSM, is supported by charitable donations from the community and sales from our shop. CoSM provides a ceremonial context for fusing artistic and spiritual practices and a public exhibition of the Sacred Mirrors and other works of mystic art."
I just went to the last Summer Solstice Event last weekend, it's an Art & Trance Community. They hold Solstice Events 4 times a year, and Full Moon Gatherings with Drum Circles once a month. Alex and others give presentations and paint live while the events are happening.
It's not a cult, not anymore then people that like nothing more than Dubstep in their lives. I'll be honest with you tho, they have a strict No A$$hole Policy.. If you're looking to do tons of drugs and rage, or you hate Trance/Psy Trance.. it's not the place for you.
If you're looking for something more spiritual and primal experience I highly suggest it. |
63M1N1 R151N6 - JUN3 2011 - PR0M0 M1X
http://soundcloud.com/dose-the-alien/sets/63m1n1-r151ng
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PL@N3MO
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 11:53:15 AM
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Originally posted by dosethealien
taken from their facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/SacredMirrors
"The Mission of the Chapel of Sacred Mirrors, CoSM, is to build an enduring sanctuary of visionary art to inspire every pilgrim's creative path and embody the values of love and perennial wisdom. The Chapel of Sacred Mirrors, CoSM, is supported by charitable donations from the community and sales from our shop. CoSM provides a ceremonial context for fusing artistic and spiritual practices and a public exhibition of the Sacred Mirrors and other works of mystic art."
It sounds like an art gallery that deals specifically with art and spirituality, and the connections forthwith.
With reading all the comments, and not being all that familiar with the establishment or the artist; I would say that you could use the word "cult" to describe many different groups and organizations, however the negative connotations are not always deserved. (as in this case)
Being a visual artist myself, it sounds very intriguing, and I'll look into this. =) |
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dosethealien
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 12:09:55 PM
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Again it's not a cult, no more than the people that follow the Dead, or DMB. It's more of a "Co-Op" A place for artists to come together under one roof.
In the Main House many of his original works are on the walls, there is a small cafe and a gift shop all which support the facility. From what i saw and understand during the Solstice and Full Moon Gatherings the venue runs entirely on volunteers who help with the door, parking and security. It really is a nice change of pace from the normal EDM Scene. |
63M1N1 R151N6 - JUN3 2011 - PR0M0 M1X
http://soundcloud.com/dose-the-alien/sets/63m1n1-r151ng
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Juniper
Upstate Underground Moderator
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 12:18:43 PM
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Originally posted by dr morozoff
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Originally posted by Juniper
ignorance is bliss. If you had it figured out why do you ask. Alex like many artist had a vision of a huge place to host his art and share it with many. A place where they could do multi media events. A place to do yoga live healthy and to be free of the close minded poopie as we have seen in this thread. No killing or worshiping the devil or a space shuttle is coming to take us away hahaha I bet Depth has some insight on this as well. No biggie just the UU shining its love colors. His terminology is very common talk when speaking of something that feels spiritual and powerful to them. I would not have really called the pranksters a cult yet they kind of the same thing in the 60s. Typical NC stuff here. Whats this mean but wait min let me tell you what it means. Wait i dont understand it cuz im outside the box looking in. Waite I hated it any way lol Good stuff!!
you know man, calling anyone who can't understand the stuff you're into close-minded is rather...well, close-minded in itself is it not? i've always found the exclusionary language you spiritual folks bandy about rather disconcerting considering that it generally flies in the face of what you appear to preach.
just sayin'.
Naw just callin it how i see it. By no means what I am saying to NC is being close minded to what he does not understand. More of his history in posting. Asking a question and if we were to take the time to explain whats its about he has already had something set in his mind. I dont see it changing. I for one and am very open and have supported some of NC threads but sometimes its cut short of looking the whole thing threw. Or getting your personal beliefs in the way of seeing what it is. Probably if discussed by anyone else on this board I would have much differ approach. Just sayin!
i for one have been on the ride with Alex since I can remember. I was so happy when he got the land and opened the doors to so many people. He has been nothing short of a incredible inspiration to so many when its comes to health, art, mind exploration and music. This was something that divide me from all scenes in a whole. Allowed me to feel their was no labels. What i use to think was something the rave scene offered. Then that changed. Drew def said it best. |
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PL@N3MO
direkt_influence
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 12:59:48 PM
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Originally posted by Juniper
This was something that divide me from all scenes in a whole. Allowed me to feel their was no labels. What i use to think was something the rave scene offered. Then that changed. Drew def said it best.
For whatever reason this struck a major chord with me.. There is truth in this statement. |
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dr morozoff
upstate_maverick
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 1:58:52 PM
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Originally posted by PL@N3MO
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Originally posted by Juniper
This was something that divide me from all scenes in a whole. Allowed me to feel their was no labels. What i use to think was something the rave scene offered. Then that changed. Drew def said it best.
For whatever reason this struck a major chord with me.. There is truth in this statement.
Well, technically he's labeling people as "labelers" sooooooooo...yeah. |
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deebuke
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 2:02:50 PM
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dosethealien
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Vogelizer
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 06/23/2011 : 4:33:17 PM
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seriously. people really need to get educated if they're gonna claim to like edm. i remember when i took my first edm test... i BARELY passed. i felt like such a scrub. but, then i studied my ass off.. retook the test.. got an A - AND a motherfuckin gold star.
now i only associate with gold star club members. which reminds me.. imma have to see all your gold star club member cards when you get a chance please. thanks.
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Juniper
Upstate Underground Moderator
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dosethealien
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neighborhood crime
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 06/24/2011 : 06:13:54 AM
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Alright, to say I don't accept art is going overboard because I definitely am a fan of damien hirst. The concept of art being spiritual along with sermons of "spirituallity" bugs me. Also understand that the town I lived in most of my life downstate was where WATCHTOWER FARMS was. People tend to question "spirituallity" when there's a knock @ your door every f*cking day asking you to join "god's people" because of the training grounds being right there. My question is relevant. I'm going to question something coming from my original region of new york popping up in the new england and upstate scene when I haven't heard of it.
You guys act as if you should never question any type of splinter group manifesting itself within the scene. If bonds are to be formed then there's got to be open information exchange. The r.ave scene has become extremely rigid and logical. The forced entry of new scenes based on spirituallity must be explained like dose did (with experience in that scene and logical interpretation, not in their context and wording) in order to piece the relationships back together. Seriously teddy, are we talking 92 when we had that bond with them? |
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deebuke
UUnet Guru
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Posted - 06/24/2011 : 06:32:44 AM
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I agree n.crime. Although... only to an extent. How do we know.... you're not ONE of them?
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Juniper
Upstate Underground Moderator
1960 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2011 : 07:46:22 AM
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| i am sorry if i came off harsh. It just seemed to me as they were already convicted as a cult before anyone even explained what they do. Dose only elaborated a lil more on what i was saying by giving examples of events. However everything is there in the forums an on the web pages. I actually think you are very well versed in understanding things than some may seem. Its that Alex and his ideas are not new. He was there even before us he has just finally got all his apples in one basket now instead of just visions and ideas. You are right the communication should be open. I am sorry if I came off harsh. I am very protective of those who are very well grounded and stand for something imo to be pure. I was at a feeling you have already determined what they were about and maybe was not turning back. Some of your statements lead me to think that as well. Alex and his wife being pioneers of something most of us were after thoughts to and still keeping it fresh. Nothing more than just a huge spread of visual art, health, music and healing. That scares many who dont understand it. I will say spirituality and religions can be totally different. I for one knows this well as I dont practice a religion or cult at all lol. |
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dr morozoff
upstate_maverick
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Posted - 06/24/2011 : 08:05:01 AM
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mr morozoff you are trying so hard!! ha
If typing a few short sentences is trying too hard, well, poopie man i got nothing... |
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ATTN: CoSM - Chapel of Sacred Mirrors?